Thank you so much for the reply. I will make sure that the Nye Central Committee receives this.
Cindy Trigg
Rural Organizer NSDP
ctrigg@nvdems.com
775-338-1561
your voice counts January 19th 2008
www.nvdemscaucus.com
Dear Margery,
Yes, the consent agenda needed to be protested – please feel free to refer any questions on this to me. You were right, and you can tell the Clinton supporters that their view is important too, and I want to hear from them. Since I was the one who brought the main objection to the consent agenda, give them my name and number, and tell them that I plan on coming down to speak with the Nye County Democrats sometime this summer.
You did not break any rules by speaking out.
Stick to your guns, but don’t tilt at these windmills too seriously – they have their own issues.
All the best,
Jonathan
Rabbi Jonathan Freirich
At Large Member of the Executive Board
Nevada State Democratic Party
jonfreirich@gmail.com
Nevadans for Change
775.901-2543
From: Margery [mailto:margerykay@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:49 PM
To: Jonathan Freirich; Jonathan Freirich
Subject: Consent Agenda
I have a few inquiries. I attended a democratic meetup this evening. I identified myself as one of the people who was opposed to the preapproved electorate slate. There were 3 Hillary supporters at the meetup and each of them told me off. I was told I was disgusting and outrageous for doing what I did. Then, the assistant to the Nye county dem chair told me that what I had done was to disrupt what was already agreed upon. That I had effectively broken the Convention rules by speaking out.
The assistant chair is also the woman who threatened to throw all the Obama delegates out of the meeting at the county level.
You are my barometer on this issue. I believe because you know more about this than I did that I did the right thing. That being said I also believe something fishy was going on there. Am I correct?
Margery
Dear Margery,
I applaud your restraint.
I don’t know who Loyal Scarlett is – feel free to educate me.
The pre-approved slate thing, specifically for the election of At-Large E-Board Members – this was a problem at the Convention. Once the rules were pushed through Saturday AM, the rules required all the slates and all the candidates to come before the general convention to be elected. Chris Wicker did something against the rules by asking us to affirm the slates suggested by each regional caucus – it was the right thing to do, and the Convention was behind it, but it was against the rules of the convention. All this proves is that majority rule trumps the agreed upon rules at any time.
This is different from the slate of electors that we approved, over our objections. The electors to the Electoral College should have been nominated and selected individually, not as a slate – I have found no Democratic Party rules saying one way or the other.
I hope be able to support Harley Kulkin – get me info!
Here are links to rules…
http://www.nvdems.com/go/party-information/
You can find the NSDP’s charter, by-laws, the selection plan for delegates (from caucus to National), but not the rules of the convention – which were six brief pages handed out to you in your packet. They have been taken off the website!
Talk to you soon,
Jonathan
From: Margery [mailto:margerykay@msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 8:38 AM
To: Jonathan Freirich
Subject: Re: Consent Agenda
I didn't say anything at all. I am very good at containing my reactions when it's important. I got the feeling they were going for a reaction from me. Loyal Scarlett was there and those 3 Hillary supporters.
If I may offer a conjecture. I think that by allowing preapproved electorate slates would have somehow affected the outcome of our state's vote. I'm not sure mind you, that's what I thought when I was there and the reason I was so vocal about it.
I am very very very grateful to you for educating me on that issue. There are preapproved slates being passed at all the GOP state convention and all I can and could think about that is that it was another way to 'steal' the vote.
Do you know when Loyal Scarlett is going to be replaced? I was part of a conference call that implicated both him and the woman who chastised me last night and all of us at the Nye county caucus.
One other thing I wanted to make you aware of. Harley Kulkin is running for office here in some fashion (I don’t remember which though I'll find out if it's helpful), we were told at the meetup last night that even though he is a registered democrat that he will not be endorsed by our party as a candidate by Loyal Scarlett, and said Hillary supporters were bad mouthing him.
Last thing I swear, for today anyway...could you when you find time send me a link or pdf. to the rules we were defending so I have more information to defend what happened at the convention.
Thank you,
Margery
p.s. Information is power.
From: Jonathan Freirich
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 8:29 AM
To: 'Margery'
Subject: RE: Consent Agenda
Dear Margery,
Yes, the consent agenda needed to be protested – please feel free to refer any questions on this to me. You were right, and you can tell the Clinton supporters that their view is important too, and I want to hear from them. Since I was the one who brought the main objection to the consent agenda, give them my name and number, and tell them that I plan on coming down to speak with the Nye County Democrats sometime this summer.
You did not break any rules by speaking out.
Stick to your guns, but don’t tilt at these windmills too seriously – they have their own issues.
All the best,
Jonathan
Rabbi Jonathan Freirich
At Large Member of the Executive Board
Nevada State Democratic Party
jonfreirich@gmail.com
Nevadans for Change
775.901-2543
Dear Margery,
I don’t know how I would know more than you about the Nye Central Committee – below is the info on the NVDems site.
I can contact the staff of the party and see if they know.
I’ll be back in touch,
Jonathan
Nye County
Nye County Democratic Party
www.ncdcc.org
1201 S. Hwy 160, Suite 105
Pahrump, NV 89048
Tel: (775) 751-9966
Fax: (775) 751-9967
Chair: Loyal Watkins
ratdog@usintouch.com
Voter Registration Information:
Nye County Clerk
101 Radar Road
P.O. box 1031
Tonopah, Nevada 89049-1031
(775) 482-8127
Democratic Clubs:
Central Nevada Democrat Club
Tony Grimes
(775) 487-2316
E-Mail: tgrimes@citilink.net
From: Margery [mailto:margerykay@msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:46 PM
To: Jonathan Freirich
Subject: Nye County Central Committee
Ok, I fibbed. I'm contacting you for other information now. I have called everybody from the county level to the state level to the party level. No one knows who the members of the Nye County Central Committee are.
Mariaelena asked me to email you to get a list of the members.
Thank you,
Margery
Dear Justin,
I look forward to working with you in this very exciting campaign season for Nevada.
I have some inquiries about Nye County from some of the Democrats there, and was wondering where I might get access to a list of the Central Committee members for the County?
I know that I should contact the county chair directly, but it seems that that person has not been much help to others in the County at the moment.
If you could point me in any other directions, that would be great!
Thanks, and all the best,
Jonathan
Rabbi Jonathan Freirich
At Large Member of the Executive Board
Nevada State Democratic Party
jonfreirich@gmail.com
Nevadans for Change
775.901-2543
That’s plenty – I will see what I can do to advocate on your behalf from the State down.
Thanks!
Jonathan
From: Margery [mailto:margerykay@msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 1:04 PM
To: Jonathan Freirich
Subject: Re: Consent Agenda
Loyle Scarlet and Loyle Watkins co chair the Nye county democratic party HQ. When I went to register myself as an Obama delegate for the County level caucus they both tried to convince me that I didn’t have to show up. CJ whom I'm sure you recall was witness to one of the Loyle's calling Obama the "N" word and promoting the idea that they didn't carry any Obama literature because his campaign people supposedly charged them for it.
Mariaelena, CJ, Kathleen and I as well as about 16 other people had a conference call that involved the State Democratic Chair with complaints over that and what happened at the county level caucus. Kathleen (whose last name I can't recall at the moment) threatened to throw out the Obama supporters and I told her she wasn't allowed to throw us out. This is where it becomes really interesting. We had 16 extra Obama delegates and I can only assume they were told the same thing as I was and didn't bother to show up. We also had Loyle Watkins rearrange our alternates and delegates in place of each other and a challenge to who was really a delegate due to Loyle Watkins accusing Mariaelena of forging their signatures and information on the Delegate sign in sheet from the precinct caucus.
When we were on the phone with the State Democratic Chair the list of delegates was withheld from the State Chair.
Mariaelena asked me to run for that office to replace the crooked people in there. I know you have CJ and Mariaelena's phone numbers for verification. They will gladly tell you what happened.
I hope that's enough of an education.
From: Jonathan Freirich
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:52 PM
To: 'Margery'
Subject: RE: Consent Agenda
Dear Margery,
I applaud your restraint.
I don’t know who Loyal Scarlett is – feel free to educate me.
The pre-approved slate thing, specifically for the election of At-Large E-Board Members – this was a problem at the Convention. Once the rules were pushed through Saturday AM, the rules required all the slates and all the candidates to come before the general convention to be elected. Chris Wicker did something against the rules by asking us to affirm the slates suggested by each regional caucus – it was the right thing to do, and the Convention was behind it, but it was against the rules of the convention. All this proves is that majority rule trumps the agreed upon rules at any time.
This is different from the slate of electors that we approved, over our objections. The electors to the Electoral College should have been nominated and selected individually, not as a slate – I have found no Democratic Party rules saying one way or the other.
I hope be able to support Harley Kulkin – get me info!
Here are links to rules…
http://www.nvdems.com/go/party-information/
You can find the NSDP’s charter, by-laws, the selection plan for delegates (from caucus to National), but not the rules of the convention – which were six brief pages handed out to you in your packet. They have been taken off the website!
Talk to you soon,
Jonathan
I am working on getting the full story about Nye – I want all the info that you’ve got so that I can bring it to the E-Board this weekend.
Thanks!
Jonathan
From: Margery [mailto:margerykay@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:57 AM
To: Jonathan Freirich
Subject: Fw: **VL-JUNK** Poll Volunteer
I just realized I submitted an application to poll watch to the person I told you that won't endorse Harley Kulkin for the Democratic party even though he's a Democrat. I was told they're going to need volunteers for the primary and the general and it's quite possible that Loyle Watkins has his own list.
Margery
From: Cynthia Trigg
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 10:21 PM
To: 'Margery'
Subject: RE: **VL-JUNK** Poll Volunteer
Thank you so much for the reply. I will make sure that the Nye Central Committee receives this.
Cindy Trigg
Rural Organizer NSDP
ctrigg@nvdems.com
your voice counts January 19th 2008
www.nvdemscaucus.com
From: Margery [mailto:margerykay@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:49 AM
To: ctrigg@nvdems.com
Subject: **VL-JUNK** Poll Volunteer
My fiancée and I would like to volunteer for to for the polls for the general election. My phone number is ***-***-****
Good Morning Jonathan,
Hope all is well with you & family. I saw Margery @ Scotty Babb's fundraiser last night.
She told me she sent you an e-mail and copied me and if I wanted I too could tell you
what has been going on here for quite awhile. This is going to be a long e-mail so
please bare with me, here we go!
This all started @ the Nevada caucasus in Feb. Our precinct was viable and we
were told we could elect four(4) delegates and two(2) alternates to attend the state
caucus in Tonapah. We elected our delegates wrote our names & all contact numbers
on a piece of paper and then left. Ten minutes after leaving I was called back to fill
out the proper form to attend the state caucus. I was the first to put my name on the
paper. I went back and filled out the form. While I was there Loyle Watkins and a
Obama delegate and Ashley, who travels with Obama, were aurguing about the
delegate count. Loyle was trying to take one of Obama's delegates and give it to
Hillary he said the count was off. The people that were counting had no idea what
they were doing. The count had already be sent to Carson City. Loyle Watkins &
Ashley really got into it heavy. I lent her my cell phone so she could call the Obama
attorney's. Loyle Watkins was told the count had to stand!!!! While all this was going
on I filled out my paperwork and was told I would be called and told where we to be
on Feb. 23rd for the state caucus. I was told @ that time it were probably be here in
Pahrump. After about one (1) week I started calling the Dem. headquarters here and
was told that people were voting for Hillary and they didn't /wouldn't tell me where we
were to go and also It wasn't necessary for me to attend that my vote would still count.
I was finally called on Wednesday, Feb. 20th two days before the caucus, and was in-
formed that the caucus would be in Tonapah. My Husband & I attended the caucus and
again it was a mess. I had the good sense to bring the form I had filled out with me. The
meeting was finally called to order. They started with the Obama delegates taking roll
call of each precinct. I realized @ that time not all of our delegates were there from our
precinct. I was sitting with Jesse & Emily Bratton ( Jesse was an elected delegate &
Emily was an alternate). I asked them if they had brought their paperwork with them &
they had no idea what I was talking about. Again, remember, my name was the first one
on the paper when we voted for our delegates. I, as I found out, was the only one called
back to fill out the paperwork. After all precincts were recognized we were lined up against the wall on opposite sides of the room. Obama on one side & Hillary on the other. They
then went down the lines and counted. The count was one person off it was then that
Loyle Watkins and all his cheerleaders counted themselves for Hillary. We were lined
up in precinct order. Due to the lack of order, control and frustration several Hillary
crossed over to the Obama side. Loyle and Kathleen again took another count of
delegates on the Obama side and removed the ORIGINAL Obama delegates and re-
placed them with the Hillary crossovers. We were not allowed to caucus and when we
protested we were told we would be thrown out of the caucus. Loyle and Kathleen
then proceeded to hand pick delegates on the Obama side to attend the state con-
vention. There was " NEVER " a vote taken. We were picked!!!!!!!! Loyle also told
everyone to have their paperwork out so it could be verified. Since I was the only delegate called back to the Feb. 19th caucus to fill it out Jesse & Emily didn't have any. Delegates,
mostly Obama, were then told that those without paperwork were not eligible to go to the
convention or even paticipate. I went toe to toe with Loyle about the paperwork. Sudden-
ly he produced the paper from our precinct with the delegate names on it, however the
alternates were missing along with phone numbers exccept for mine. In brackets the
three (3) remaining names were listed as alternates. Loyle asked me if I had written
down the names and I explained to him aI hadn't. It's clear on the paper that none of
our signatures match, however he insisted and accused me of it even with Jesse & Emily
backing me up, basically accusing us of lying which I resented and still do!
On our way home my husband & I saw two women from the convention that had
car trouble, we assisted them and during our back and forth to their car I learned that the Hillary delegates were called two (2) weeks before the caucus to make sure they would be there and yet some of the Obama were either NOT called or called two (2) days prior WHY?
I thought It was important that someone supporting Obama volunteer @ the Dem. office
just in case and I was right. People would go into the office asking for Obama posters,
button, etc. and were told they only carry Hillary stuff!!!!!! On one occasion CJ overheard
a conversation that had taken place the day before. An African-American Obama
supporter asked for Obama stuff and she was told that they don't have that " NIGGER "
stuff there. Sorry for even using that awful word, I was offended, I can't even imagine
how that poor woman felt. I was so enraged and upset I called Alison Schwartz and
told her everything, she too, was upset by what had taken place. She assured me that it
would be taken care of. She sent a letter to Sam Liebermann and it was decided that
a revote or should I say a proper vote be taken. She sent me a copy of the letter and I
still have it should you need it. Loyle was notified by the ethics committee and he was
"LIVID ". He tried to argue that everything had been followed in accordance with the
rules. Then he was asked for the ballots from our vote and he could not/would not produce
them. How could he we NEVER VOTED!!!!!!! The ethics committee arranged a conference call which fifteen (15) of us participated in. We all said the same thing. Loyle was
supposed to take part in that call. We later found out that he and Kathleen were listening
in unaware to any of us.
I encouraged Margery to run for his seat to bring unbiased, unopionated and fairness
back as it should be. I can't tell you how outraged he his @ the thought that someone is
opposing him and his way of running things with his groupies. Jonathan we have lost many
good people who were thinking of running for various offices, volunteering but now will not ever get involved because of Loyle Watkins. That should tell you something. He reminds me of George Bush, his way or no way and thats wrong! This e-mail is not meant to attack him
but to point out that that things here need to change so we are able to unite and go forward.
However with Loyle @ the helm that will not happen! People that were once excited, in-
volved, filled with enthusiasm, have new ideas and just want to be a part of something
historic have given up on our party. Several of us in Pahrump came back from the con-
vention, rolled up our sleeves and have been working very hard to do our part in any way
we can. It is an uphill battle with Loyle Watkins as County Chair. It is of my opion that
Loyle Watkins, Loyle Scarlet , Kathleen Bienenstein all be removed immediately.
I'm sorry this e-mail was so long, but I needed to start @ the beginning. Below please
find e-mails and phone numbers. Jonathan, I do hope that this whole matter can and will
be resolved ASAP. You're extremely knowledgeable and good @ what you do! I trust
this will be given your immediate attention.
Thanks
Mariaelena
County Chair Loyle Watkins: 775-751-9966 Democratic Office
County Co-Chair Loyle Scarlet:
Kathleen Bienenstein
e-mail: Kathonnie@ Yahoo.com
CJ Ross: Obama Delegate & Volunteer ( Democratic Office )
e-mail: BoxCjRoss@wmconnect.com
You two are awesome!
Thanks for all of your efforts – I will call Jim Dean on your behalf as well, if you like.
I am working on the whole Nye County problem with the State Party – we’ll see if anything comes of it.
Thanks again, talk to you soon,
Jonathan
To: jonfreirich@gmail.com
Subject: Update on Us!!!!!
Good Morning,
Just a quick note to let you know what Margery & I are doing. We took the
DFA training school class last night (6/25/). Margery went on the website
afterwards has gotten two(2) invitations and applied for a position with the
Obama campaign. As for me I contacted Jim Dean and applied for an
internship with the DFA. Sent him my resume with all the things I'm doing
locally and with the Obama campaign. Hopefully I'll be accepted.
Margery & I figure that in four (4) years we'll be so good we'll run your
campaign for state senate and you'll be a shoein. We'll get you elected.
Adrienne Lever was instrumental connecting me to the right people
to get the Obama campaign office up & running here. Anyway that's
where we are. Hopefully I'll hear back from Jim Dean. Wish me luck!!!!
I'll let you know what he says. Take care~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Mariaelena
Dear Margery,
You are going to have to bring this directly to the State Party. I tried to do so and was not received warmly. Get the leadership and staff e-mails from the nvdems.com website.
Honestly – I pretty much got shouted down for interfering in another county.
Talk to you soon – keep your chin up!
Jonathan
From: Margery [mailto:margerykay@msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:22 PM
To: Jonathan Freirich
Subject: Loyle Watkins
Loyle Watkins took a new ad out in the Pahrump Valley Times stating the same thing as he did in the Mirror. I can't wait to hear what he paid for that ad. Something has to be done. I sent all the information I have to the Pahrump Valley Times editor concerning Loyle Watkins, Loyle Scarlet and Kathleen Bienstein. I can't be silent and let this go by because not only is it dividing the party it's also not getting the message of Democracy across. There's something else that crossed my mind. How can our Democratic Headquarters just give $18,000.00 to the Washoe county Democratic Head quarters when first they don't need the money and we do in order to get the word out. These were apparently donations to our county party.
Do you have any other suggestions?
Margery
